Friday, January 6, 2012

checking in

Well, there is not much going on.  Is that good or bad?  I made it through the holidays, which I think is good.  Sadly, having too much time off with E was making me anxious- I am not even going to read into that any further.  It was wonderful to be with my BFF, I miss her so much.  We were able to eek out one day alone together before the rest of our girls joined us.  I cried a lot at a table, at what turned out to be a 2 plus hour lunch.  I needed that, good thing I do not care about crying in public anymore.  She pointed out some interesting things to me, helping me see that E is not the only one who gets to decide to stay or go (the way I have been approaching things).  I feel like I have more agency now, I am not sure what that means.

NYE was nice actually.  I had many, many, many drinks.   It was E’s birthday and I assumed it made sense to try to have to sex with him and act like a more normal married couple (before we went out for the night’s festivities).  Sadly, I found myself doing a shot of vodka in the kitchen before staging my seduction scene in the bedroom.  I needed the liquid courage- again, not even going to read into that, we all know the meaning of these kinds of things.  E and I, in the end, had a nice night.  In fact, if you saw us you would never imagine what was going on behind the scenes.  It is confusing to enjoy his company sometimes, I wish that never happened anymore, it would make deciding easier.

Today, we are meeting with a new couples therapist after nixing couples therapist #1.  Actually, we are meeting with E’s therapist, with whom I have historically had major reservations about.  For you therapists out there, I am making E terminate his individual work with her so we can see her together, not ideal I know.  I also know it is not ideal to meet with someone who I have mixed feelings about, but the truth is trying to find someone is hard, with 2 busy schedules and other factors, this is easy and I am too exhausted to not take the easy way out.  It is what it is, I am cutting myself a break.  Like most couples, I think we are entering couples therapy too late, meaning when we are likely beyond the point of no return or close to it.  I guess for me the goals will be to discuss the options of cycle 7 (which smart or not I still want to do, mostly to not leave any stones unturned) and/ or to help us separate in a calm way that does not involve us trying to rip each other’s heads off (note, I cannot imagine it getting to that point, there is no fighting now just quiet- scary, uncomfortable,   quiet).  If you are wondering why I have dropped the DE/ adoption goals, well... E has told me the door is 100% closed on that and he also mentions things like wanting to leave so he can start over (meaning with a more fertile woman).  I feel furious about those statements but also know that they are not so far off from me saying I would rather be a mother than a wife.  

Believe it or not, I am mostly fine.  I stopped crying somewhere along the line. I am sure that will pick up again soon, but right now no tears are falling.  I feel numb and disconnected.  I had been trying so hard to work through things with E out of sheer desperation, but now I don’t.  I just kind of let it be.  Sometimes that means we interact little, sometimes we kind of act normal.    I have been obsessively checking apt rental listings to see what is available these days, I am worried where I will go after.   Money issues are constantly on my mind, I have no idea how to make that work exactly. 

I have been trying to read along with your stories, some days that is easier than others.  I wish that was not so, but in the spirit of honesty I need to call myself out on being a bad bloggy friend.  You are in my thoughts and I thank you for your support especially as this blogs turns more into one about marriage/ divorce instead of IF.  Much love to you all in 2012.

P.S. Did I mention that I would like to skip 2012 and just hop right into 2013, where I imagine things to be at least somewhat more calm.  

36 comments:

  1. I will be thinking of you today and hoping your session with E and the therapist goes well. Take good care of yourself!

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  2. Hope your session goes well and you get some clarity. Being stuck in limbo is not the best place to be, so I am hoping that these seesions will bring about some resolution to this impasse.

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  3. You're in an emotional purgatory for sure... and that sucks total ass. I guess right now, it's just a matter of each of you really seeing where you're at, what you both want, how you really feel about each other, how flexible each other is and if there is someplace to meet on everything. Obviously, I would love for things to work out for both of you... but quite honestly... you're my main priority. If things DON'T work out (which again, I hope they do) but you end up finding the happiness I feel you so deserve, then so be it. I hope that doesn't sound too blunt but your happiness is truly important to me and whatever it takes for you to get it, is fine by me. As always, thinking of you and sending you much love.

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  4. Thank you for taking the time to update us. I think about you often. I hope with all my heart that you make yourself happy in the end of all of this. It sounds like you're on your way to that.

    And I'm sorry E says the things he does. I cringed when I read what he says about starting over. In my opinion, if he has the nerve to say that to you, then he should have the balls to walk out now. Comments like that are hurtful and they shouldn't be said while trying to work things out. If he wants to "start over," then I say do it and let YOU move on. My husband and I dealt with similar comments early on in our marriage. I told him to stop with those comments, or I'M walking out on him. I was serious. He stopped! I don't know why they have to don't say things like that.

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  5. I hope your therapy session proves to be helpful, and that your therapist is there to help both of you equally. I totally agree with your friend that it's important to remember that you have agency in this situation. You can take steps to bring this to a head and move forward, one way or another. Eight years ago I got divorced as well - completely different circumstances, but I was the one who initiated it. I had a lot of guilt over it, but it turned out to be the best thing for me and my ex-husband, and we remain friends to this day. It's better sometimes to make a clean break rather than let things stew and poison the well. Not that I am advocating leaving E - just figuring out a way to move forward and get yourself out of this rut of tension and despair...you deserve better than this!

    I hope and pray that 2012 brings you strength, patience, and peace of mind with your decisions. Thinking of you...

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  6. I read this and it really does sound like you have made some decisions...and that you are in control of your future. You stated that you want to be a mother more than a wife and if E has truly 100% abandoned any DE or adoption goals it seems like there aren't many other options. I do wonder if you asked E if you two did divorce would he then screen potential mates with bloodwork and fertility visits? I mean really! He has narrowed down what makes a partnership and family into two words: fertile and genetics which is frankly quite sad. I know it's not about calling someone right or wrong because all feelings are valid BUT, can I just say that E is wrong here? Of course, that's because I think genetics aren't as important and if my DH had defined me as a good partner by my fertility status I would have not been picked. Sigh. I know I'm not saying anything new I just want to show my support. Hugs to you.

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  7. I'm so sorry for everything that is happening to you and I wish you peace and happiness in the future.

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  8. It doesn't matter if your blog veers away from IF, your blog should follow you and you are now dealing with marriage issues/divorce and not so much IF. We will all probably continue to follow along as we're already invested =) I hope you guys come to some sort of conclusion soon, whether it's stay together or be apart I feel the limbo is slowly killing you both. Best of luck to you!

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  9. Thanks for the update, wishing you a resolution in 2012 which will lead to a peaceful 2013. Take good care of yourself.

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  10. Thinking of you and hoping for a smooth resolution one way or the other.

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  11. Wow, this is some heavy stuff. And it definitely is shocking and infuriating to me that E actually said he wants to leave to start over with a a more fertile woman?! However, like you said he has a choice and so do you. If being a mother is more important than being a wife, then you need to leave. If for him becoming a biological father to a child is more important than being your husband, then he needs to leave. I like what your BFF said. She's right, you have power here to make a choice. You don't have to wait for him to leave you. I think the longer this goes on like this the harder it is going to be. And longer it will take for you to be able to file for adoption, get your life back to happy. etc. Of course, this is all easy for me to say I realize that. But I just want you to be happy. I seem to hold my breath every time I read your posts, because I think I'm waiting to exhale until I read that you have left him or that he has changed his mind about things. But it doesn't look like he is going to. Not judging any decisions, just want to see you happy and heading in a good and hopeful direction. Which I'm thinking that direction may not include E. Hang in there. xo

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  12. I was glad to hear how things are going, and especially glad that your friend empowered you to look at things differently. She's right - you also hold power in this. It isn't solely E's decision.

    It makes me a bit angry that he floats the idea of leaving and finding someone else. That isn't fair. I hope the therapy turns out okay. Something tells me that this therapist may need a bit of education about infertility, but I hope that once that's imparted, you BOTH get what you need in that setting.

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  13. I have been thinking about you. There are no sweet comforting words that I can offer as you are living in hell. All you can do is survive. I'm glad you have your best friend to talk to...and's she's right...you do have a choice in the matter...to chose a man who would never say to you that he wants to "start over" presumably with a more fertile woman. A horrible thing to say. But, I know, in marriage, we say horrible things.

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  14. It is hard for me to comment. I still try to adhere to "if you cant say something nice" and frankly, I want to call E a mother fucker to his face.

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  15. always thinking of you and hoping happiness and peace finds you sooner than you expect. i'm glad you have your best friend to talk to and be there for you. hoping the new therapist will help you guys find some type of resolution... whatever that is

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  16. Thanks for updating, you've been on my mind.
    I hope the couples therapy is productive and that you and E can start moving forwards in whatever direction that takes.
    I agree with Adele, it's hard to read that E is making statements about leaving you for a more fertile woman, I hope it is a flippant fly away comment, but even so, it's hard to read. Thinking of you, you strong woman, you are amazing. xx

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  17. I definitely understand your fears for 2012. I think it is a good idea to skip it over, mentally. This is a year of transition. Your goal is healing and better things in 2013. I hate that E talks about 'starting over', but maybe that is just coming out of his hurt feelings (that you choose a child over him). I am sorry that you have to see a therapist who doesn't understand IF, but hopefully you will gain perspective and peace there anyways.

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  18. These are such tough decisions and life altering ones. One thing I do like is that your BFF reminded you that these aren't only his choices; they are yours as well. You need to decide what you want and what you can give yourself and him. You have to be happy with the choices you are making. I know initially most will be hard and likely bring more sadness than you want, but in the end, I pray you will have happiness and a child to call your own. We all deserve happiness. We all deserve a child if we want one, ESPECIALLY after having gone through as much as you/we have to get one!
    Sending you hugs and hoping that the therapist can in some way help show you both the path to take. Here for you for whatever you need!

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  19. Think of you. Just thinking of you...

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  20. Another person rooting for you, and hoping that 2012 brings wonderful things.

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  21. Thinking of you very often.

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  22. You are an amazing person. I haven't even met you, but I know that. You deserve more. You deserve everything. I too wish we could skip you right over 2012 to 2013 when this anxiety will be behind you and life will be on the path it's meant to take, whichever direction that leads.

    I think one day you will have happiness beyond your wildest dreams. I hope and pray with all my heart that in 2013 you will look back on this time from the vantage point of something so wonderful.

    And I would really like to knee your husband in the balls for saying things like that, but I won't. (Though if I run into the two of you on the UES I can't be held responsible for what I do, fair warning).

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  23. Another long-time reader, also thinking of you and checking in often. I've really tried to see both sides of the equation here and have empathy for E's position, but boy, this post also makes me want to punch him on your behalf. Like so many other readers have said, you deserve someone who is in this whole terrible situation WITH you, rather than wanting to "start over." Hoping you find your way to something else wonderful, or he finds his way to seeing what a jackass he is being - and soon!

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  24. what Ashley said. and Roccie.

    want to hug you. I never thought it would be this way and your cerebral approach to things should be commended. you remain pragmatic and non judging through the worst of it. that says something about that kind of person you are, my friend. and you have s been at an emotional standstill for too long.

    I'll be here, holding your hand, albeit awkwardly and possibly hysterical myself, you've got all this mess in your corner. *hug*

    xoxo

    lis

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  25. Thinking extra positive thoughts for you. I hope the meeting went well and no matter what you find peace in the outcome. *hugs*

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  26. I read this post yesterday and have been trying to find the right words to maybe give a tiny bit of comfort. But I just can't seem to come up with anything that I think could help. So I will just say, I wish you weren't in this difficult painful place. You truly are amazing and strong to make it through this. Hugs.

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  27. My two cents: If E is serious about seeking someone more fertile, he should not make you waste more time. I hope that therapy can help both of you establish your priorities fast so you can move to the next step, whatever that turns out to be. Uncertainty sucks.

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  28. I've been reading along, feeling helpless in the face of so much serious sh*t. I'm right there with you, wishing you could skip ahead to a better place. This one seems completely agonizing, even if in a calm, quiet way. I'm glad there have been some good times in the past few weeks, and that your BFF is so good at supporting you. I wish she could be by your side every day.

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  29. Hi. I am so glad to hear from you and how things are going. My only advice is to not wish away 2012 just yet. IT's a LONG year and you never know how life can surprise you. It may start out rocky and end in an amazing place. Yes, it will be hard. but every year is hard no matter what. That's life. So you can wish away a day or week but not a whole year. Don't shortchange yourself on how amazing your life can still be either without a husband, without a child, or the multitude of options in between. Being in limbo sucks but it sounds like soon enough that you and E will figure out what path to take, whether that is together or not. Lots of hugs...

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  30. I wish that I could come up with something that would make it all bettter or at least allow you to fast forward thrugh the shitty parts, but I've go nothing except to echo what other have said: you are amazing and strong and deserve to be happier that you are with E. I'm glad that your BFF is so supportive and I hope that knowing that we are all standing with you helps.

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  31. Ugh, my lengthy comment just got erased. Grr.
    I am thinking of you and hoping that the therapy session was helpful. It sounds like you are in a different place, perhaps your feelings are evolving..... I wish that I could take away these next few difficult months and bring you to a place of peace and clarity. You are strong, you can do this.
    Sending you, as always, strength and love.

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  32. You were in my thoughts for the whole span of the Holidays, and very much around New Year's Eve. It sounds like despite the fact that there may not be a lot going on on the surface, things are working internally for you both as individuals and as a couple. The way you write about it, it does sound like things are dissolving and I am sad for you. You clearly married someone you loved, and to see it dissolve before your eyes is, I'm sure, agonizing. I am glad that there was time with your BFF during the Holidays, where you could cry and speak freely.
    You are a strong woman and you will get through this, no matter what. And as you can tell from the 34 comments on this post, you have a whole circle of women who believe in you.

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  33. I think of you often and hate that you're having to go through this. I wish life was different. Big, big hugs.

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  34. Thinking of you and praying for you. You are never a bad friend! It is totally understandable sweetie. <3

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