The D word, Divorce. It is a word that is now uttered in my house a little too often. Mostly, this is occurring in the form of jokey statements that both E and I are making to each other, referencing when we are back in the dating world again and the like. Sometimes we laugh at this, but we both know it is not really funny. As in most things, there is a fine line between laughing and crying and I have found myself in tears over a joke that has gone one step too far, or something like that. It is a really weird thing.
Both mine and E’s parents are still married. In fact, in my family, all of my aunts and uncles are still married- it is like nobody gets divorced, which I know is an anomaly in itself at this point. I feel like I am ruining our perfect track record, not that this really matters anyway.
E says often that is feels weird to be talking about this given that we are not really fighting so much. This is true and untrue. We are fighting some of the time (whether this is more than most married couples is debatable),but if this baby issue were not on the table we would not be at this point.
I had agreed to only bring up IF related issues (specifically DE/ adoption/ child free/ divorce decision matrix of hell) one time per week. E’s therapist had wanted me to table the discussion all together for several months to give us breathing room. While I saw her point, I knew that was completely impossible for me, thus the compromise. I had a pretty good run with this for the past two weeks, but this week I was a colossal failure- I now see her point even more, too much of these kinds of talks leads to nothing good- meaning it ends with me sleeping on the couch and wishing that we had an apartment big enough to hold a spare bedroom (we live in a 1 bedroom apt, I promise by NYC standards we have a good amount of space).
Sometimes I want to freeze time and run away with E and pretend that none of this is happening. Other times, I feel like I am wasting my time on failing IVF attempts and in a marriage that is ultimately never going to give me what I want. It is so confusing. I vacillate between wanting to hug him and never let go and then feeling so angry that I cannot even stand to be in the same room as him, let alone sleep in the same bed. It is a dead end street. I lose either way- no baby or no husband. Impossible.
I feel like I’m drowning…..


Oh sweetie... I wish I had some really wise words to share with you or some type of magic solution. But all i can offer is a shoulder to lean on and being here to listen or sit in silence with you. Whatever you need I support you. hugs!
ReplyDeleteI'm so sorry you are going through this. Whatever the outcome we'll be here to offer strength, love and support to get you through this trying time.
ReplyDelete:( The whole things sucks. I just wish I could fix it all for you. Hugs...
ReplyDeleteIt NEVER ceases to amaze me that there are bottom lines in relationships that sometimes simply can't be compromised. Relationships in general are just SO tenuous. Religion, finances, politics and definitely, the subject of children can often be dividers which is a total f*cking shame... especially when you have a two people that geniuinely love each other. Jeez... I feel like I'm having a whole "The Way We Were" flashback now! But you know what I mean. The thing is I don't have an answer for you. I don't know what's going to happen or even what should happen but as I've said before and I'll say it again: I believe in you and I know you will be a mom someday. I have no doubt in my mind that any child would be blessed to have you as a mom. You are a loving, nuturing, thoughtful, fun, generous, smart, beautiful person and you have so much to offer to a little one. I still hold out hope in my heart that things work out with you and E as much as I hold out hope in my heart that you will hold a baby in your arms. Any which way, as Ms2Mrs... back to Ms and foxinthehendhouse have said, we're here for you.
ReplyDeleteOh C, I'm so sorry you are struggling. Sometimes life is so freaking unfair. I can only imagine the heartache of not being on the same page. It was so hard for me going through, IF and we were on the same page. I wish I could shoulder some of the burden for you.
ReplyDeleteHugs and hang in there.
I so wish there was an easy solution to this or something we could do to help. I am so, so sorry.
ReplyDeleteOh sweetheart, I'm so sorry. I wish that I had words. Thinking of you.
ReplyDeleteI am so sorry you are going through this - it's tough enough dealing with infertility alone, not to mention having relationship issues. I really hope you and E are able to find your way through this together. You are in my thoughts.
ReplyDeleteIt sometimes feels like a vicious circle. I sometimes wonder whether IF is the issue or even if we didn't go through IF would we have these issues even having children easily. Does it mean that we just transfer our attentions onto other things. What is the core of our issue, that we can't have a baby or that we can't ever be on the same page with accepting it or wanting it. I hope that you and E find some clarity together and can move on together and not apart.
ReplyDeletesounds like trying it on for size, the way you and your husband bounce the D word around in jokes. I am so very sorry that this is the state of things in your marriage at this point. You have endured enough already, both of you, and I just wish it could be amazingly easy from now on.
ReplyDeleteI wish there was something I could say or do to help you... I'm so sorry. All my love, prayers and best wishes for you too <3 @Susy_Sama
ReplyDeleteIn our case, divorce is a word that comes back and forth, mostly as a joke, sometimes as a dreadful possibility. I don't think it will ever disappear from the horizon. And yet we keep going, because both of us agree that life together can get tough, but without each other it would be horrible.
ReplyDeleteNo words. Just (((Hugs))).
ReplyDeleteSending you love and hugs and wishes this were easier, and that the d-word were...doggies. Or doughnuts.
ReplyDeleteIF is so much more than just being infertile... we've had so many moments like this too... and I know what you mean when you say that what starts off as a joke, certainly isn't a joke. My heart goes out to you... and I hope that you both find a path through this difficult time together and towards your future family xoxo
ReplyDeleteThis is definitely one side of IF that gets little attention. I'm so sorry that you are in this place at the moment. In the past, I've felt smothered by IF and it caused many fights, sleepless nights, and threats of leaving. So I understand when you say you are drowning.
ReplyDeleteYou are in my thoughts, C. <3
I'm really hoping that this is a phase for E and that he gets on board. So sorry you are dealing with this.
ReplyDeleteIF is so friggin tough on a marriage. I'm so sorry you are going through this, know you are not alone and that it's normal to have these conflicted feeling about your husband. Many hugs to you my dear.
ReplyDeleteBig hugs. I worry that everything is affecting my marriage. I don't know what will happen. I can understand your feelings. It would be difficult since your hubby is hard to budge on certain issues. I hope everything works out. Keep fighting for your baby, but hopefully not as much fighting with hubby. It's so hard. <3
ReplyDeleteOh hunny I know these feelings well. I look at C sometimes and I weep thinking about not having him in my life, but then picture a childless life with him and weep at that at well. It does feel like you can't win. I can't push him into adoption, he can't push me into childless life. But if I chose adoption over him, I am alone. No best friend i call husband. But if I choose childless I see regret and resentment.
ReplyDeleteIt's not fair we are faced with these harsh realities. Life is hard enough. Why give us one we love, keep us from having another one we would love and then push us to the point of losing it all?
Thoughts and hugs...
Oh C. I again completely understand. J was happy with just me & him...he said we were a family. I would NEVER accept that. If he hadn't agreed to adopt, I am sure we would have ended in divorce. I hate what IF robs from us. I am so sorry that you guys are battling this. Love to you. I am totally here if you need and e-shoulder:-)
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry that you are going through this right now with E. I bet it is really strange to have it be thrown around in your conversation. I feel like E's therapist sucks. Im sorry of this is too strong of an opinion, but come on! To be able to table IF altogether? That's BS, man! This IS YOUR LIFE! it's huge. And to just put it away to fix something in your marriage doesn't make sense to me. You're a better person to understand her point than I am. I so hope that you guys can find your way through this to the other side both happy... I bet it's very confusing for you. Know that I'm here to be a sounding board and help you through this the best I can.
ReplyDeleteI'm so sorry that after all that IF has done to both of you, it's now threatening your marriage. Sending you love and hugs.
ReplyDeleteI'm so sorry that this continues to threaten your marriage. I wish there were words of advice that I could give but there aren't...so I just send positive thoughts and prayers that you and E can find peace in a decision together - whatever that decision is best for you both.
ReplyDeleteI am so sorry you are going through this. I wish there were words...IF can be so annoying and frustrating in a marriage.
ReplyDelete*hugs*
ReplyDeleteI was married before. And I decided to end the marriage because I realized I had made a fundamental compromise that I wasn't ok with anymore. It was an awful decision - everyone thought we were the ideal couple. No one in either of our families was divorced. We'd been together for 9 years - 5 unmarried and 4 married.
Thinking about divorce comes down to thinking about what's fundamentally important to you. It's the ultimate selfish decision. Not in a bad way - a decision made solely about YOU is by definition selfish.
For me, the critical point was that we were about to start trying to having kids (this is now many years ago), and it made me realize that this was the time to reconfirm that he was THE guy, since I wasn't ok making that decision after we had kids.
It was heartbreaking, because I did still love him. And he loved me. And he was devastated by my decision (he's since remarried, which I'm really glad for). But it was the right decision for me.
I hope you and E find a common place that lets you move forward together. I'm with Jen - you're amazing, and you're going to be a mom, one way or another.
xoxo
There's such lovely wisdom and kindness above, I can really only echo it. This has to be a terrifying moment, hearing that word floating around. Mainly I'm just heartbroken that you guys have to even face these kinds of thoughts/decisions. I know you have the strength to get through this, but every day must feel so hard. I hope you are taking care of yourself.
ReplyDeleteIF is so rough on a marriage. I wish things didn't have to be so tough for you guys right now. I'm sorry to hear that this word has come into play in your marriage. I'm hoping it stays as only that - a word - that allows you guys to work through the difficulties and come closer.
ReplyDeletethinking of you.
Mo
I don't have any real wisdom to offer. I'm just another person hoping fervently that you get to have EVERYTHING you want. And soon. Damned soon.
ReplyDeleteThinking of you, I wish i had more to offer....
ReplyDeleteI wish you and your husband could find some common ground in all of this. I just wish you weren't made to choose:( Did E ever see the infertility therapist? I feel like a therapist who has first hand knowledge would be a more effective 3rd party in this situation. Sending you a big hug & hope this rough spot is over soon.
ReplyDeleteI am sorry you are going through a hard time in your relationship.
ReplyDeleteI, myself, have been there before. I was married for 5 years to the man I had been with for 11 years (we met in 1st year university dating, living together, etc). I thought I was happily married, and intended to stay that way! UNTIL some unforgiving events made it clear that behind what seemed to be a perfectly picture perfect life, was a whole series of other deeper, darker set of decisions that would make it clear that we could not spend our lives together. We were not the people we thought we were.
It was the hardest decision of my life to leave him. BUT the deciding question that made me understand what I needed to do was: do I see my future in the hands of this man? AND do I see him as the father of my children? Out of nowehere, from the deepest entrails came a resounding NO. And I knew then it would be over.
IF is not the reason for your distance, but it may be the journey that exposes other underlying issues that may bring you apart.
That being said, IF may also allow you to discover the most wonderful and unexpected things about your partner that you had not yet discovered. It is that kind of challenging self discovery journey, that may be life changing.
Be easy on yourself. Love yourself, and ask yourself the questions you need to, only when you are ready to deal with them. In the mean time, please remember: none of this is your fault, you have done nothing wrong.
You will get through this and emerge an even stronger person.
Hugs from a fellow infertile!
That really sucks. It is a terrible position to be in to have to choose havbing a child over a partner.
ReplyDeleteAfter my third m/c, I moved out of my house. I couldn't stand to look at my husband or his son (from a previous relationship). I was so angry, disgusted really. I ended up talking to a very wise friend who told me, "If you're wondering if it's over, it's not. When a marriage is done, you *know* its done." This really hit home. When I just want to throw a brick at my husband's skull, I ask myself is it done? So far, I haven't had a definitive "no" but believe me, I've been where you are. And it sucks. I hope you can find some peace in your situation.
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I'm really sorry you're going through this. I see some people talk about how infertility strengthens their marriage and I'm so jealous - I don't see how that happens. One of my greatest fears is that my marriage won't survive this, and although I'm not to the point you are right now I can definitely understand and empathize to some degree. I'm thinking about you and sending internet hugs...
ReplyDeleteNever, ever drowning. I can see even from way over here you are made of the stuff that doesnt sink. You might bob. Fucking bobs. We all bob together, ok?
ReplyDeleteOh how I wish we could get together for tea or something. Our difficulties in this are seem so similar. Even though my dh is on board with adoption it is only on HIS terms, which are terms that will almost guarantee we will never get a baby. I've tabled my desire for now because we are adopting a teen, but I'm sure it will pop up again. I posted that my husband was making adoption difficult on a forum and got blasted for not loving him enough and what am I doing adopting when my marriage is so crappy? It's so hard. We love them but don't we deserve to be happy? ((Hugs)) I'm thinking of you.
ReplyDeleteI'm so sorry that infertility is taking such a toll on your marriage :(
ReplyDeleteI wish I had something to tell you or to offer you but all I have is my thoughts and they are with you during this struggle.
It's so not fair.... Infertility is hard enough no matter what stage you are in. And the effects of it are brutal. Wish i had something to do to ease your pain. But there are a ton of us out there praying for you....
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